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| YOUNG TURKS: Zubin Gandevia,
National Geographic Channel |
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"I
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| Posted
on 6 November 2002 |
| Young
Turks. Indiantelevision.com's
new series profiling the brightest and the best among the youth brigade
in the Indian television industry. Under the spotlight are the men
and women on the "right side" of 35 who are serving it up stirred
and shaken. And making a huge difference, each in their own right,
to the way in which the TV business is managed. |
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this, the second of the series, we get up close and personal with
Zubin Gandevia, managing director, South Asia, National Geographic
Channel. |
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| What will a teenager do
if his father refuses to buy him the snazzy mobike on which the youngster
has lost his heart ? There are two options, possibly, before the teenager:
one, he either forgets about the mobike or, second, he earns enough
money to buy the two-wheeler. |
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| Zubin Jehanbux Gandevia
, the young managing director for South Asia of National Geographic
Channel (NGC) , went in for the second option ("I thought if my father
wants me to earn to get the mobike, so be it."). He not only managed
to buy the particular model of Japan-made Yamaha in the mid-80s, but,
in the process, also set up one of Mumbai's oldest cable network,
along with two other associates, United Cable Networks (sold later).
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No wonder, a card from his parents, occupying the pride of places
in Zubin's room in the Star office in Delhi, aptly has the message:
"Beta, I am proud of you."
Zubin, as he is more commonly known to friends, colleagues,
associates and the media, actually fits in very well with the NGC
culture which is all about adventure, outdoor sports and, more importantly,
the curiosity to know more about our immediate surrounding and people.
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"When I look back now at my stint at NGC, which is about two
and half years old, I think we have got a good stable business with
a sound revenue model. There is also a dedicated band of viewers
and advertisers and the effort is to increase the base," Zubin says,
as he stretches his legs in his room that houses a computer, apart
from other office knick-knacks. Sitting atop the PC is a Star Trek-type
gadget which Zubin finally reveals is for his "back which is giving
a bit of a problem."
But the road to the managing director's chair at NGC India has
been a roller-coaster ride for Zubin, every moment of it cherished
and enjoyed. Surprisingly, not also tinged with much regrets, says
the 35-year-old.
As the MD, South Asia, for the National Geographic Channel,
Zubin is responsible for running the business of the channel in
India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan. With over 14 years
of experience in India's cable and satellite television industry,
he was among the first in the country to establish his own cable
business with United Cable Network (UCN) which went on to become
the largest single headend in the country.
Zubin joined the television industry in 1996, as director of
cable affairs (read managing cable operators) of Star India Pvt
Ltd and was responsible for managing the Zee relationship in Siti
Cable (the days when Rupert Murdoch and Subhash Chandra dreamt together
they could build an unbeatable media company in India and later,
probably, Asia; a dream which has long since gone sour). Zubin has
also worked in Star's DTH division as senior vice-president in-charge
of technical services and business development (again a division
which has seen more downs than ups).
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| But these hiccups somehow
failed to deter Zubin or his enthusiasm. In line with the spirit of
National Geographic Channel, Zubin enjoys the outdoors, has a passion
for motorsports and --- no surpsies --- is a big fan of Michael Schumacher.
In this interview, Zubin, a person who is very reluctant to talk to
the media ("I have had some bad experiences with the media with journalists
mis-quoting me completely out of context") lets indiantelevision.com's
Anjan Mitra enter his private world and speaks on the industry,
his urge to innovate to avoid perishing and, of course, how he entered
the TV industry. |
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"If
I am hardworking, the least that I expect from my colleagues
is that they also should put in their best" |
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How did you foray into the TV industry ?
I was about 18 when I asked my father to buy me a Yamaha mobike
. He refused, telling me 'if you want the mobike, buy it out of
your money'. That inspired me to join the cable industry which was
then in its very early stage and a far cry from what it is today.
I joined my uncle who was in this business and later with some friends
set up my own company, UCN.
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How was it starting a business venture in India in your early
20s?
Now when I think about it, the experience was a learning process
of trial and error. The cable business, along with my friends, was
started with almost no money. Rather, it was the subscription money
collected from people in an area near Breach Candy in south Mumbai
which set the whole thing rolling. We went to this society where
there were about 50 families residing and told them of the cable
service. About 16 of them opted to subscribe to the service after
giving Rs 600 as installation fee and agreeing to pay Rs 75 per
month.
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So, the subscription money collected saw you guys setting up
shop. But was the money enough to start a cable service, no matter
how much limited?
(Laughs) The money that we collected just gave the green signal
to our intention. We also did not have enough money to buy a VCR
to show movies. So, the first week we rented the VCR from the neighbourhood
electronics shop! The response on movies, some of them new, was
good. So we went back to our subscribers and requested them that
if they were happy with the cable service and wanted efficiency,
it'd be great if they gave us three months of money in advance.
Having managed to convince them, the collection was enough for us
to buy a VCR and that was it.
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Did you manage to buy the mobike which, in a way, was instrumental
in bringing you into the broadcasting industry?
Oh, yes. I still retain that mobike (smiles, as nostalgia sweeps
over his face).
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at all I do miss something and feel about is not having enough
time to spend with my family" |
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UCN and the cable business expanded pretty well. Why did you
sell off the business in the mid-90s when the industry was just
about picking up?
There were several reasons for this. Because of the expansion,
the business did not look like a revenue making one. Agreed, we
had acquired assets and had a huge capital asset base, but at the
end of the day we thought it was getting a bit too big for us. That
was when we sold part of it to (the Business India group owner Ashok
Advani-promoted ) Business India TV.
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How much did you make by selling off the business?
I cannot tell you that. But it was an okay sum.
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Why did you join Star?
Since my cable days, I had a working relationship with Star
India. When the word went around that I had sold off part of the
cable business, Star asked me whether I would be interested in joining
them. I joined Star in 1996 to manage the relationship with Siti
Cable (which was then a 50:50 joint venture between Star and Zee
Telefilms). A year later on 1 April, I was shifted to Star's DTH
division.
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It is said that you still retain part of the cable business.
Has Star allowed you do that?
Yes, I still have some personal cable subscribers and before joining
Star I apprised them of the situation. The company was nice enough
to allow me to do that even though I became an employee of Star
India.
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How has it been with National Geographic and being its managing
director for South Asia when rival Discovery is openly saying these
days that it's a leader?
Is Discovery saying so ? Good for them and for me also. You
see, in India, NGC is a comparatively younger channel as Discovery's
Indian operations were set up much before NGC's (Discovery started
its Indian operations in 1995 with Kiran Karnik as its first country
head). But if Discovery is accepting our existence in such a short
period , I can only feel good for the NGC team. But I must admit
that at NGC it has been an enriching experience. National Geographic
is a hallowed brand with a rich legacy. At present, we have managed
to set up a sound foundation, but because we are still such a small
player, I feel there still lots needs to be done.
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After having informally interacted with your colleagues, I get
this impression that you are quite a Hitler in the office. Right
or wrong?
Hitler, me? That must be a joke. I don't believe in cracking the
whip because I firmly believe one can still learn from anybody and
everybody. Every colleague of mine here can walk into my office
whenever he or she wants to and speak to me on any issue. Yes, but
if I am hardworking, the least that I expect from my colleagues
is that they also should put in their best.
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So, what is your business philosophy or what is the mantra that
you have for succeeding ?
It's all about common sense. It is also about going back to
your customers to know more and especially of their needs. But in
short, I would say the business mantra is : innovate or perish.
I feel, if you don't do things differently you won't go far. To
give you an example, I still go back and interact with the cable
subscribers that I have to know their problems, the issues involved
and what more can be done for them. One has to be in constant touch
with one's customers and the feedback is very important.
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Do you have regrets in life?
(Thinks a bit) Probably not. May sound strange, but I don't
have many regrets. Life has been kind to me. If at all I do miss
something and feel about is not having enough time to spend with
my family.
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Have you ever thought of retirement?
I was all set to retire at 27 when I sold part of the cable
business. And then Star happened. But now I don't think about retirement.
I love my job and want to continue exploring life in the true tradition
of NGC.
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