| Interview with BBC
World head of advertising sales, India, Seema Mohapatra |
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"The new launches
will not affect international news channel share"
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| Posted
on 9 May 2003 |
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A
typical Cancerian - she sees herself as an extrovert who is full
of energy and passionate about work and other worthy causes. BBC
World head of advertising sales, India, Seema Mohapatra will need
all this energy as she gears up to face the challenges offered by
the mushrooming of innumerable news channels in India.
A
management graduate from XIM (Bhubaneshwar), Mohapatra has been
with BBC World since the last four years. In the beginning, she
was responsible for west and east India markets. Mohapatra also
developed ad sales operations in south India from scratch as BBC
World didn't have a strong presence there at that point of time.
Currently, she has an all India team of 18 people and two more from
the finance department who are responsible for collections.
Prior to BBC, Mohapatra was with Star India and was responsible
for the Kolkata and the East India market. For nearly four and a
half years, she was responsible for getting revenues for the Star
Network's five channels including BBC World which was part of her
portfolio. Having worked in different markets in India, Mohapatra
is well-positioned to leverage her contacts amongst the advertising
fraternity and obtain revenues for the channel.
Mohapatra
responded to indiantelevision.com's Ashwin
Kotian's queries
and outlined her plans. Excerpts -.
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How
has the relationship between advertisers, ad agencies and airtime
marketers changed in recent times?
The
need of the hour is ROI - greater return on investment - by agencies
and clients. This has necessitated the three parties to work more
closely on embracing the brand values and providing solutions that
reflect the 3 Ms - media value, media innovation and media solutions.
Advertisers and agencies expect sellers to be more than agents for
airtime.
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Did
the war have any impact on BBC's airtime sales? What should be the
stance of 'news' airtime sellers during times of war or calamities?
Viewership of news channels demonstrated a steep upward curve both
globally and in India in recent times. As far as we are concerned,
the channel assumed a rolling news format where all advertising
breaks were dropped. Advertising was resumed when it was thought
to be appropriate during such sensitive times and also in keeping
with other international channels.
We
did lose a number of international ad campaigns especially those
from advertisers in the travel and energy sector. But when we reinstated
our breaks, several of them returned to the channel - especially
the tourism boards - who were keen to maintain business interests
during a peak holiday period.
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| "Information,
Involvement, Ideas and Insight - these are the four 'I's that
the sales team for the channel embrace and use to conduct our
business in India" |
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What
efforts are being made to ensure constant dialogue with advertisers
and clients? Has BBC developed any special training modules to address
these "client servicing issues"?
Information,
Involvement, Ideas and Insight - these are the four 'I's that the
sales team for the channel embrace and use to conduct our business
in India.
Engaging
with agencies and advertisers in communicating our brand values;
along with our unique offering of international programme formats
and series; as well as bespoke shows for our audiences in India
forms the backbone of our sales approach.
More
recently, the team has adopted the creative approach to selling
the uncluttered and exceptional environment with sponsorship of
long and short form programming as well as production of unique
features - for example 'Samsung Dream Team', 'The Complete Man'
for Raymonds, Fiat 'Sport Today'.
Around
the world, we subscribe and commission studies to understand the
elusive upscale audience who form our core audience. Mass studies
tend to ignore this niche but powerful group of influencers in any
society.
BBC
World found a gap in research available on this audience in India
and conducted a major study called Horizon in 2000. This was shared
with advertisers and agencies, which has been used as a tool successfully
to understand this group better. This year, we have conducted the
next study in the series called Horizon 2003, which again throws
up interesting trends.
BBC
World does both in house training as well as getting external trainers
to come in and periodically update skills of the team. The team
is encouraged to come back with new ideas of reaching out to customers,
which has worked very well. We have used various interesting 'out
of the box' ideas to inform our clients on special programming on
the channel.
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What
are the extra efforts, which will be required to market BBC group
channels - which offer a different proposition - infotainment news
with documentaries?
BBC World is a 24-hour news and information channel in India bringing
to its viewers in-depth news and analyses along with informative
and compelling programmes.
The
channel will continue to constantly upgrade and strive to be a leading
global news and information provider around the world. We will be
able to show the clear differentiation and value to our advertisers
in the future by providing both a programming environment across
every aspect of news - business, sports, motoring, entertainment,
technology, travel and current affairs as well as an involved influential
audience.
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Will
BBC launch these documentaries in India to ward off the stiff competition
from a plethora of Indian news channels?
BBC World continues to invest in programming for its audience in
India and around the world. There has been an influx of news channels
in recent times but the offering across all of them is local. However,
appetite for international news has also increased in recent times.
The
new launches will not affect the international news channel share.
Viewers will continue to watch BBC World for its unparalleled reporting,
in-depth analysis, informative programming and award winning documentaries.
The
channel has been offering unique weekend programming like the Voyager
series, Trouble at the Top - which examines how bosses steer
their way through start-ups, revivals, turnarounds and disasters.
Profiles, a series, which ran last quarter, featured key
international personalities from the global fields of business and
politics like Saddam Hussain, George Bush and Stephen Hawking.
Coming
up in the next quarter is a programme called Great Britons,
which is a series of ten biographical programmes of the 10 great
Britons as, voted for by the British public.
BBC
World has remained the preferred choice among international channels
in India. Recent research during the Iraq crisis showed a 57 per
cent increase among upmarket people and over 10 million people dipped
into the channel in the first three days according to TAM ratings.
Credibility,
the single most important factor for any news brand, is extremely
high for the channel globally and in India.
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| "There
is very little product differentiation within some of the local
news channels seen in India today, so there is bound to be a
high level of duplication in that segment. In fact, we have
a larger number of sole viewers on the channel" |
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What
kind of a strategy have you adopted to counter the perception (amongst
ad agency planners and buyers) that BBC will lose out to the local
channels?
The ad agencies understand that we have a very clear positioning
and our viewers will remain with us. In the past few years, with
Indian news channels coming of age, we have seen that the core viewer
of BBC World has not gone away nor has the faith of our advertisers
and agencies. We pioneer a lot of research to look at the new trends,
which we periodically present to planners/buyers.
There
is very little product differentiation within some of the local
news channels seen in India today so there is bound to be high level
of duplication in that segment. In fact, we have a larger number
of sole viewers on the channel. Globalisation being the new mantra,
the affluent Indian wants to know what is happening around the world
and in India we have been able to provide a platform for opinion
formers to turn to.
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What
kind of innovations will a tradition bound channel (such as BBC)
permit in air time sales packages?
We have been investing in locally relevant programming with more
creative opportunities for advertisers to associate with the channel.
Our short form programming series have provided effective associations
for our advertisers.
With
over 50 years of archival footage available to us, we have created
unique vignettes for our clients on technology, travel, inventions,
medicines amongst others. We have commissioned some innovative ideas
in India like the idea of 'The Complete Man' for Raymond where successful
women from different fields were asked to comment on their idea
of a complete man.
Special
programming associated with events that are important in the business
and sports calendar both locally and internationally have also been
on the agenda. The World Cup cricket had dedicated programming across
Indian programmes, sports and business programming.
The
first ever contest on the channel, sponsored by Samsung, ran pre
cricket World Cup; where viewers were invited to create their cricket
'World Dream Team'. We will continue in our endeavour to provide
meaningful innovations to our advertisers.
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| "News
channels specially will be watched only of the consumer is comfortable
with what he or she is getting" |
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Do
you see content and sponsorships (in TV placements) going hand in
hand? Will BBC ever compromise airtime space - in a manner similar
to how major publication groups are talking about selling content?
The trend has already started in a minor way and channels are evaluating
such options. I would say that the associations have to be very
clever and will only work well within certain genres.
Today,
we have a very evolved and discerning viewer and we cannot insult
the viewers' intellect. News channels specially will be watched
only if the consumer is comfortable with what he or she is getting.
BBC World will not compromise on the editorial content of news as
both viewers and advertisers come to the channel for the environment
and the values it stands for.
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How
difficult it is to formulate strategy for markets which are so different
from each other - Delhi, London, Singapore?
As a channel, we leverage the fact that we operate in different
markets. We use learnings on global accounts and trends across markets.
We share experiences and best practices across our various markets.
As
a result, we are able to offer our clients a much broader perspective
than our competition. A successful global strategy has helped the
team get international campaigns out of India.
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How
do you cope up with ever-increasing targets imposed upon sales teams
by broadcaster-proprietors?
Increasing targets are an integral part of any sales teams core
deliverables. The challenge is to strike a balance between setting
realistic targets based on market condition and at the same time
guiding and motivating your team to meet these numbers.
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What
have been your experiences in negotiating with media planners and
buyers across markets? Is there a threshold level beyond which discounts
shouldn't be given? What happens whenever a programmes doesn't have
good ratings?
It's
the job of the media planners and buyers to negotiate on the behalf
of the client, we have been successful till date in being able to
show value rather than the percentage of discounts to our clients.
We have very strict guidelines on the amount of commercial time
that we can sell on the channel.
It
is half of the average commercial time being sold on other channels.
This actually gives the advertiser the benefit of standing out in
the cluttered environment prevailing in the TV medium today.
I do
agree that there should be a threshold level for discount. Going
below the threshold level compromises all parties involved. The
advertiser gets more in quantity but less in quality and it invariably
results in lowering the future price points and hence compromises
the long-term revenue potential of the channel.
The
clutter on the channels increases due to revenue pressures. Some
channels carry more than ten commercials in a single break and upto
eight sponsors on one programme.
One
of the targeted channels had thirty-five sponsorship associations/innovations
in some form or the other on the channel in a single day. The quality
of programming suffers due to the squeeze on the bottom line. All
of this marginalizes the effectiveness of a client's media plan.
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What
are the top category wise advertisers on the BBC group of channels?
Which are the sectors which will show promise (for your team) in
the near future?
Motoring, telecom and IT; travel and tourism; consumer durables;
banking and finance have been our key categories in India in the
last fiscal. We have widened the number of categories on the channel
last year. The growth sectors will be similar to last year.
Motoring,
travel and tourism and telecom promise major growth. We will also
look at revenues from India companies looking to export their product
and services to international markets such as Europe and Asia Pacific.
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| "The
new streams that channels can explore and have started exploring
are rebroadcast rights and programme sales, on ground events,
brand extension to merchandise, multi-media tie-ups amongst
others" |
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What
are the new revenue streams which TV channels can explore and exploit?
What are the global trends?
Advertising revenues and subscription fees are the traditional
income generating avenues of channels. The new streams that channels
can explore and have started exploring are rebroadcast rights and
programme sales, on ground events, brand extension to merchandise,
multi-media tie-ups amongst others. |
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Tell
us something about you as a person? Do you watch TV shows? Hobbies?
I perceive myself as an extroverted, high-energy individual who
is passionate about work and every other worthy cause. Yes I do
watch TV; news, current affairs, sports and infotainment programs
take up my viewing time. Unlike the ordinary viewer, I channel surf
during programming and my involvement rises dramatically during
ad breaks.
Hobbies
include reading, cooking and travelling. I have travelled a lot
to the US because my husband has business engagements there. I have
also enjoyed going to the Far East although I went there for business
seminars.
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