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A Media , Advertising & Marketing Interview WithNational Geographic Channel MD, (South Asia), Zubin Jehanbux Gandevia.

"We want our ratings to grow 30-40% by 2005"
Posted on 14 August 2002

National Geographic Channel in India ready to "take a leap" and the channel's management just cannot hide its glee, specially managing director, for south Asia, Zubin Jehanbux Gandevia. The man is all smiles considering the success the channel has notched up in India.

Zubin's profile fits the channel's profile to the T. Not only does he enjoy the outdoors but he also has a passion for motorsports and is a big fan of Michael Schumacher --- genres of programming in which NGC wants to be the leader in this part of the world by 2005. Topping it all, Gandevia - who is responsible for running the business of the channel in India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan - has over 14 years of experience in India's cable and satellite television industry. He is among Indian cable TV's pioneers having set up his CATV network in 1986. Thinking big, he along with two other partners, set up United Cable Network (UCN) in 1993, which went on to become the largest single headend in the country.

With the cable TV market hotting up and UCN getting bought over by BusinessIndia first and then Hathway, Gandevia got on to the other side by hopping on to Star India Pvt Ltd in 1996 as director Cable Affairs. His responsibility: managing the Star-Zee relationship in SitiCable. He also worked in Star's DTH Division as Senior Vice President -Technical Services and Business Development.

In this interview with indiantelevision.com's executive editor
Anjan Mitra, Zubin holds forth on future plans for the channel and other issues. Excerpts from the interview:


What do you have in store for NGC?
It is almost two years since we set up the Indian operation and over this period we have made substantial investments and have also got good returns on our investment. I would say we are at the take off stage now here after the consolidation that we have being going through. So much so that apart from Star Plus, NGC way ahead of other channels in the bouquet where penetration is concerned at 22 million cable TV homes. Our global aim is to be the leader in exploration and adventure genre of programming and that is what we want to be in India too.

How are you going to give shape to you ambitions?
Because we have a tie up with this venerable organisation called the National Geographic Society we have access to high-quality content. But apart from the content we have a strategy too which envisages building personalities or heroes, get the emotional connect with the people and carry on off-line and on-ground activities to supplement the channel programming.

In India, we want NGC to become a way of life and we want that very Indian should live NGC. That is why we have this three-pronged programme called the NGC Way of Life. This will reach out to Indian viewers through a unique integrated approach-on air, on ground and online. We expect to touch over 5 million Indians through this initiative and increase the channel's viewership by at least 35 per cent by the end of 2005.

"NGC and Discovery can both together try to expand the market for this genre of programming which revolves round exploration and adventure."


What will be the on-ground activities like?
To give you an example, NGC has tied up with like-minded people like the Bombay Natural History Society and the Indian Mountaineering Federation. The channel will support and promote activities of these organisations both on ground and on air at a national level. More such tie-ups are in the offing.

You said that substantial investments have been made in India. Can you give us an idea what sort of investments has been actually made here?
We generally do not give out figures, but to illustrate my point I'll say last year (June-July financial year) we spent about Rs 30 million on marketing activities. Out of this Rs 20 million was spent on the media. This year the plan to spend about Rs 70 million on marketing activities out of which Rs 50 million will be the media spend.

If the investments have increased, so must have been the goals. What are the targets, which you have set for yourself and the team?
We think that our revenues which have grown by about 40 per last financial year compared to a year ago, can grow by another 40 per cent this year too. I also don't see why the viewership also cannot increase by about 35 per cent by 2005. We have most of the top brands advertising on our channel and most of them are out of India, though we get some overflow of international clients too.

What is revenue mix for NGC in India?
NGC in India derives equal amount of revenue from both subscription and advertising. At 50:50 it looks like the ideal mix. But the advertising market too has been growing , maybe at a slower rate.

"We'd like to increase the local content from India. We see to it that any global programming also includes India as it's a key market for NGC."

(Mark Shand and Aditya Patankar Presenters of India Diaries which aired on NGC in the year 2000)


How big is the Indian market for NGC and what would be India's contribution to the Asian revenue kitty ?
India is one of the biggest markets for NGC and it contributes almost 50 per cent to the (Asian) revenue. The next big markets are Taiwan and some other South East Asian countries. NGC is big in Taiwan.

Do you foresee NGC increasing sourcing of programmes from India ? Programmes sourced from India for the Indian feed and also the global feed have increased. For example, this new programme called 100 $ Taxi Ride which features some top global cities also includes Mumbai and Chennai. We see to it that any such global programming also includes India as it's a key market for NGC.

Do you see Discovery as a competition ?
No I don't see Discovery as a competition or a threat. But we can both together try to expand the market for this genre of programming which revolve round exploration and adventure. This genre of programming is for people having an evolved thought process and I must say that Indians have shown a great liking for such programming.

"We expect to touch over 5 million Indians through a unique integrated approach-on air, on ground and online called the NGC Way of Life."


Was NGC hopeful that it would be able to create the market it has managed in India considering TV viewers here mostly like entertainment-based programming as the success of weepy soaps on Star Plus have shown?
We were always confident that NGC would be successful in India. Though as a channel we are relatively young in India, but satisfaction can be achieved from the fact we have done well here.

Why has Adventure One got such a low profile launch?
We are testing the market for this channel by seeding the market with set-top-boxes for this channel. We hope that by the time the mother brand (NGC) is established fully and phase one is over in India, it will be time to concentrate on Adventure One. We also have to see that Adventure One has the right programming mix of those sourced from India and globally. Though, at the moment it may be a bit skewered towards global fare.

So, where do you see NGC in 2005?
By 2005, as a brand we should be the leader in exploration and adventure genre of programming through the NGC Way of Life where people will spread the NGC message. On the ratings front, we think we can grow between 30-40 per cent over the next three years.

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