In an interview with Indiantelevision.com's Sibabrata Das, Colors CEO Kamat talks about the challenges that Hindi GECs face in a ring that has three close competitors.

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How significant a feeling is it to end Star Plus' nine-year rule as the No. 1 Hindi GEC and yet continue to fight weekly for the top slot?
For a challenger brand like Colors, it was important to breach the psychological barrier and feel life at the top. But we realise we are entering into a bloodbath as there would be no undisputed leader in the Hindi GEC space. From now on, it will be a weekly battle as Star Plus will not give up its nine-year rule so easily. Zee TV is also in the race. Like in the US, we are headed for a confused leadership status with dependence on spikes and seasonality.

So you are still in an uncomfortable position?
Not really. We have reached a stable base of 250 GRPs (gross rating points) from our programming. And we are not banking only on Balika Vadhu, which is the biggest perception driver show for us, for our ratings. We have a basket of shows that rate over 3 TVR. With movies, we are stable in the 280-300 GRP band.

There are other healthy indicators. Our reach at 73 per cent is higher than that of Star Plus. Our prime time GRPs are also higher.

Movies seem to be a divider between Star Plus and Colors at this stage. But isn't this a fickle GRP base?
Even if we fall by half, we will have around 25 GRPs from movies. And then there will be spikes. We have created a stable base for us. The idea is to grow from this.

Are you in a position now to play first run movies on your channel?
Absolutely. After establishing a base of over 250 GRPs, we are in a position to upgrade to a first run of movies on Colors as we can monetise our investments on such big premieres. Our plan is to have at least eight premieres in a year. Ghajani and Jaane Tu...Ya Jaane Na are steps in this direction.

There is also the flexibility of launching the afternoon band. When will you be playing this card?
We do 22-23 hours of weekly programming as against 33-38 hours done by Star Plus and Zee TV. Our weekends are not full blown and we have the afternoon band to create. So when the need arises, we can increase original content on our channel to drive in more GRPs.

We were actually tempted a couple of months back to firm up our afternoon strategy. But we decided instead to replace our weaker prime time content at 9.30 pm and 10.30 pm as they were not delivering to the potential. The rejig strategy worked for us as Naa Ana Is Desh Ladoo started delivering. Since the afternoon slots are also doing well with repeats, we can launch an assault with original shows when the need arises. That part of the arsenal we are yet to use.

Stable GRPs, movies, afernoon band yet to launch - are these the selling points to advertisers?
When we launched last year, we were clear in the head that we would only do short term ad deals and at rates we were comfortable with. The channel, in any case, was growing and we believed our product offering was worth much more. We did not want a hangover of the old deals. Come 1 April and we are operating on effective rates which is clearly off old deals. It's a free run this year and we have stitched new deals at rates which have come from a position of over 250 GRPs. Yes, we tell advertisers that we are stable on GRPs, we have 14 hours to launch, and we have these rockets in form of reality shows which are to come up each quarter.

Is Colors targeting a revenue of Rs 5 billion and a fourth-quarter break even this fiscal?
I can't comment on the financials, but monetising of GRPs is our primary task now. This year will become the base and benchmark for us. For our big properties, we have already signed with Idea as title sponsor for Khataron Ke Khiladi (Fear Factor) and Maruti Suzuki for India's Got Talent.

Is it true that Colors' programming budget this fiscal is Rs 4.25 billion and the running cost is at 20 per cent above rival GECs?
When I was at Coca-Cola, I learnt how they used to pump in 70 per cent of their ad budgets in seasons. That is what we did; our annual budget is like the other big GECs while the perception we have built in the market is that we spend big monies on content. You either pump in the money upfront or spread it out. When we launched, we had Khataron Ke Khiladi and backed it with Bigg Boss 2. We fired two missiles, hoping at least one would hit. As it turned out, both became hits. And we used Akshay Kumar for our content, which also helped in marketing our channel. Obviously, non-fiction can't sustain on weekdays. But we used Bigg Boss to build Uttaran.

Also, our concept of cost control is reducing the number of hours of original content. Unlike conventional media thinking, we provided alternative time slots for our prime time content and introduced repeats in the afternoon band. At a time when there is so much of audience fragmentation, this worked and maximised our reach. The afternoon repeats got us good ratings.

Considering the Hindi GEC ecosystem, is it not strategically imperative to go for a big bang theory than fiddle in the mid-rung space with low costs?
It is better to play in the tier 1 game and go out with full ammunition than take a cost-conserving approach and prepare for gradual growth. The revenue upside is much higher if you have touched 250 GRPs. By playing in the tier II race, you are effectively pushing back your break even by four more years. You would probably save in programming costs, but distribution expenses would be the same for both the players. And if you haven't quickly moved from a consumer push to a pull situation, you would continue to pay high on distribution. In case of Colors, we will be actually reducing our payout to cable operators in the second year. On top of that, we could turn into a pay channel.

Were you not fortunate in that viewers were looking for a change from the 'K' soaps (Kyunki..., Kasauti... and Kahani...) and nobody was willing to take a risk in providing differentiated content?
The time was favourable in that there was a fatigue built in for the kind of soaps that were running on Indian television. We made disruptive and differentiated content our main plank. We were willing to take a calculated risk; our concepts were different and on the riskier side. But they worked.

How was the content strategy drawn?
Broadly, between 7 to 9 pm, we placed shows that had strong appeal among non-metro masses as that is the time zone which attracts viewers from smaller towns. The 9-10 pm slot had content tailored for smaller towns as well as metros as there is an overlap of viewership. The more urban shows like Fear Factor and Sajid's Superstars were placed at 10 pm.

More specifically, we knew there was a vacuum, particularly among the Gujarati viewers, in the 8.30 pm slot after the exit of Kasauti. We placed Jai Shri Krishna (JSK) in that time slot. we worked out such micro details while planning our programming grid.

When Star Plus launched Kaun Banega Crorepati, it built lead-in slots. Wasn't your strategy different in that your showpiece programme Khataron Ka Khiladi was at 10 pm while the other main shows were before that?
We couldn't have launched Khataron Ke Khiladi at 9 pm; it had to be 10 pm. It was our differentiator show and Akshay Kumar gave it the scale.

Our first task was to get noticed, invade into single TV households in prime time, and shake up the house. Outside this, we built slots through a different kind of programming slant. Balika Vadhu, for instance, was a family drama based on child marriage and carried a social message. What followed was the lead-in concept. We now own 8-9 pm and 10-10.30 pm.