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Indiantelevision.com's interview with Mocha CEO Riyaaz Amlani
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'I
dont consider others as competition. They are partners
in spreading the coffee culture in India'
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on 1 March 2005 |
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Coffee
culture has grown by leaps and bounds in the country and cafes have
become a hotspot for the young and old alike. With more and more
outlets of Mocha, Cafe Coffee Day and Barista opening, the competition
in the coffee space is getting tougher. In the midst of this, Mocha,
which opened its first outlet in India in December 2000, is looking
at going international, the first stop being Dubai afterwhich Singapore
follows.
Now,
with the foreign direct investment (FDI) allowed in the real estate
of the retail sector, there will be better scope for companies like
Mocha to improve and expand.
Mocha
CEO Riyaaz Amlani spoke to Indiantelevision.com's
Hetal Adesara
on the sidelines of the just concluded KSA Retail Summit in Delhi,
about Mocha's future plans, the competition and the growing coffee
culture in India.
Excerpts:
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How did the concept of Mocha originate and what about others operating
in the same segment?
If you believe in yourself and your ideas, there is nothing
that can stop you. There is always room for originality. If you
come up with a concept that is truly original, implement and execute
it well. It will definitely work.
When
we started out with our first outlet in December 2000, there were
no other players in the coffee space. We were aware of the big boys
like Starbucks and other American companies, however. We definitely
didnt want to do a cut and paste job of replicating in India
what Starbucks, for example, does abroad. We wanted to do something
different and wanted our place to be a culture hub, which is conducive
to social interactions. So,
Id say we are different from the other players like Café
Coffee Day and Barista, which are somewhat based on the Starbucks
model.
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What
would you say is the differentiating factor between the other players
and Mocha?
Ours
is a fully service restaurant, were not just a self-servicing
model. We have a wider offering and larger number of footprints.
Our average footprints are 3,500 square feet for each outlet. The
average number of people who walk in are approximately 800 per day
per outlet. In terms of coffee also, we have more variety than just
the entry level coffee.
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How would the number of footfalls that you get per outlet per day
compare with those of the competition?
I dont consider others competition. I believe they are
partners in increasing and spreading the coffee culture in India.
We definitely dont consider them competition also because
they are catering to people who want to spend 15-20 minutes, while
we cater to people who want to spend an hour or so. It is a different
segment within the coffee market that we target.
Because
we have a larger footprint concept, we definitely see two to three
times more traffic than the other players.
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Considering
the likes of Barista, Café Coffee Day and Mocha are partnering
in pushing the coffee culture in India, what kind of growth do you
predict?
Well,
it will increase but not exponentially. We are pretty much reaching
a point of market saturation with the levels of infiltrations of Café
Coffee Days and Baristas. I dont see room for more players at
this point in time with the coffee concept. And, there is definitely
going to be a shakedown and at the end of the day, only two or three
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When do you think this shakedown is going to happen?
The shakedown is likely to happen when all the big global players
like Costa Coffee will enter the market. I personally feel that
Café Coffee Day is pretty well placed to counter that kind
of competition. Im not too sure of the other players.
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When do you see the big guns from abroad entering the Indian market?
It
really depends on the foreign direct investment (FDI) norms and
whether the players are given a level playing field or not. But
there is going to be a shakedown, that is for sure.
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'The
shakedown is likely to happen when all the big global players
like Costa Coffee will enter the market'
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How strong a presence does Mocha have in India today and what is
the growth strategy going to be this year?
We
are present in four cities namely Delhi, Mumbai, Hyderabad and Ahmedabad.
By the end of the year, we want to make our presence felt in Bangalore,
Chennai, Kolkata, Pune and Chandigarh. Our growth strategy would
be to strengthen presence in the existing cities and at the same
time create
awareness of our brand across the country.
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So
how are you going about creating that national awareness?
What we are doing is, is getting into a city and creating a
lot of hype there around the brand. So, for example, in Mumbai,
it will generate that buzz for us in nearby cities like Pune. Similarly,
in Delhi we would do the same for nearby cities like Chandigarh.
So we will be creating a buzz in opinion leading cities. Mumbai
is the biggest opinion leading city and then comes Delhi.
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Will
you be looking at advertising too as a vehicle to create awareness?
No.
We are not looking at advertising. I feel that it can be destructive
in the case of F&B (food & beverages), unless youre
a single product where you need to increase the market size of your
product. In that case, advertising can help. We have a variety of
offerings.
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Are
you looking at having a presence in the international market too?
Yes. We have signed a deal in Dubai and are looking at opening three
outlets there, which will be operational by September this year. |
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And
beyond Dubai?
Right
now we are looking at a place where we can fly to within three hours.
Dubai is again a hub and lots of travel happens. It is also the right
place to create a buzz around something new. Though nothing has been
finalized till now, we are looking at opening an outlet in Singapore
too this year. |
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What
sort of investments has been made considering the fact that Mocha
is in a expansion mode?
There
is an average investment of about Rs 6.5 million per outlet. |
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Over
the next 18 months or so, what sort of investment are you looking
at making in Mocha?
We
are growing via the franchisee route, so the investments are largely
done by our franchisees. Right now, we are looking at investing in
a strong management team to provide better support to the franchisees.
We are going to be utilizing the funds to create a better management
team and infrastructure in the markets that we are in. |
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What
sorts of revenue are you drawing in at present, and what's the sort
of jump that you have witnessed over the past few years?
At
the end of the 2005 financial year (ending 31, March, 2006), we should
draw around Rs 190 million in terms of revenue. In terms of group
revenue, we closed FY 2004 at Rs 80 million. We have been growing
year on year at this rate. |
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Do
you think you will be able to maintain this more than double digit
growth year or year, or do you see the growth plateauing off?
For
us, yes because we are still nascent. We see this kind of growth for
the next three to four years. |
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Are
there any immediate plans for changing or extending your model?
We
will be looking at an extension of our model for malls because right
now Mocha is not a mall model. So, we will be creating a special model
to be present in malls. |
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And
what would that model be?
That
model will have a limited offering and space. There wont be
a kitchen and it won't be a full service restaurant. Since it will
be a brand extension, we will be going by another name, which will
be Mocha Express. Wed be doing our pilot project in Mumbai
for Mocha Express by the end of this year. After having done that,
wed evaluate how well that does and then decide if we want
to scale on that or not.
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