| Indiantelevision.com's
interview with Times Group president Arun Arora |
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"We
are targeting all the thinking, 14 plus individuals who are tired of the saas-bahu soaps"
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| Posted
on 7 September 2004 |
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Bennett,
Coleman and Company Limited is flirting with television once again.
But group president Arun Arora is clear that this time round, the
relationship with the medium is for keeps. In the pipeline are not
one, but four TV channels that the media powerhouse plans to unleash
in the next 15 months. None is designed as a 'me too' channel, but
will have a distinct personality of its own, a genre untested on
Indian airwaves thus far. Arora oversees the venture, and Zee import
Apurva Purohit spearheads the television initiative.
Inside
the behemoth that is the Old Lady of Boribunder's edifice, Arora's
office is a relatively spartan affair compared to the bright and
funky decor that marks the Zoom ramparts two floors above. His restrained
responses to queries about Times' ambitious TV plans belie the obvious
enthusiasm that envelops the organisation, currently in the throes
of the launch of the first channel off the block - Zoom.
Arora
himself is upbeat about Zoom, an entertainment and lifestyle channel
modeled on the lines of Times' popular city centric supplement that
has exalted Page 3 to a fine art. In a chat with
indiantelevision.com,
Arora held forth on the various programming, marketing and distribution
plans that are being put in place to ensure a smooth launch for
Zoom.
Excerpts:
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Zoom now seems to be ready for an imminent launch. Are things ready
on the marketing and programming fronts?
Broadly, things are in place. But the final touches to tbe
FPC are being given, and should be ready by next week.
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What
about the distribution end?
We are lucky on this end. We have started seeding the boxes,
and have already seeded more than the targeted number.
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Where
are you seeding them initially?
All
TRP towns. Hindi speaking, of course, but we are also looking at
the south.
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Which
are the channels from the Times stable that will follow Zoom?
The spiritual
channel called Ananda, will launch approximately 12 weeks after the
launch of Zoom. It will be around mid December, but no date has been
thought of yet.
While the business channel is still far away, the launch of a music
channel from the BCCL stable is more likely in the near future, but
no name has been finalised for it so far.
We are working on the format for the channel, but it is not being
thought of as a Times Music addendum. Even our Planet M stores are
not Times Music shops, they are more a destination store for all music
companies. The spiritual channel will also be run at an arm's length
from Times Music, while recognising and exploiting the synergies of
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Have
you appointed separate business heads for the individual channels?
For
Zoom, Ashwin Balwani is the business head. Balwani, an old Times
hand, has been involved in the launches of music label CBS, Times
FM in its earlier avatar, and Planet M. While the Zoom team reports
to Balwani, Apurva Purohit is the chief operating officer for the
entire Times television initiative, to whom all television channel
heads will report
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What
are the preparations being made for the launch of the business channel?
The
business channel is around nine months away. We are looking at buying
some space in Delhi too, we have shortlisted some 17 properties
from which we are trying to finalise some.
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"When
we say we are going to be like Bombay Times, yes, coverage of
parties will be there, but that will be one element of the programming
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What
kind of research and thought went into the making of Zoom?
We
tried several things that had not been tried before, the house has
never been afraid of experimentation, but we dont experiment foolishly,
and hopefully, this time too, the experimentation will prove us
right.
We
believe that people are slowly getting fed up of the saas bahu soaps,
and every channel, by and large, is showing the same kind of scheming
mothers in law and daughters in law, which has put off a lot of
thinking minds. Zoom is for those minds which find different entertainment
interesting.
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So
you are not targeting the masses, since most of the masses still
prefer the soaps?
You
see, it's a 'mass niche'channel...I know, it sounds like a contradiction
in terms, but look what we are doing with the Economic Times, we
are catering to the masses, but by doing it, we have made it the
world's second largest financial paper....but, it's still not just
a mass-appeal paper.
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So,
is Zoom targeted at the 18 plus viewer?
Yes,
but that's not to say that the 14 plus viewer will not find anything
interesting in it
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Which are the international broadcasters you have tied up with for
footage?
There
are some like E! and others with whom we have tied up.
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How
is the programming on Zoom going to be divided, will it be a mix
of Hindi and English?
It's
going to be a language as we speak it, we have tried to keep it
as natural as possible
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What
is the product positioning of the channel?
We
are talking about the metrosexual, the youth, someone who uses her
mind, who is self confident, who knows what she wants to do in life.... |
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Is
it skewed towards the male audience?
It
is for the metrosexual, it is skewed towards the intelligent, aspiring
urbanite... |
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Is
it the Bombay Times kind of reader who's the targeted viewer?
Of
course. |
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What
kind of a programming matrix will Zoom have?
A
12 hour matrix, seven days a week, with programmes revolving around
lifestyle and celebrities, you name the celebrity, actor and we could
confirm that he would be somewhere on our shows. |
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Will
there be a lot of coverage of celebrity parties?
When we say we are going to be like Bombay Times, yes, coverage of
parties will be there, but that will be one element of the programming
mix. |
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How
much of The Times of India brand will you actually use in the content
and marketing of Zoom?
We are using, at this point of time, the minds of a lot of our
colleagues, rather than the brands. The brands have been designed
by these very people. So, while designing the content, packaging,
while making the FPC, their input will definitely be used. |
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We
already know about Malaika Arora doing a show, the Manish Malhotra
show...who are the other celebrity names roped in to do the rest of
the programming?
Vir Das is doing two shows - one will be his usual stand up comedian
act, and in the other, he will be taking calls, agony aunt style.
It will be an interactive show, with live phone ins. |
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Since
Das does his acts in English, will his shows be in English too?
That was the concept, but our programmes are designed to be 80
per cent Hindi and 20 per cent English. He's been taking Hindi classes
for this. |
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"Lifestyle
is a large canvas, how it's brought out makes the difference"
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What
about other shows, like the one Fahad Samar is doing?
Fahad Samar is doing a show called Dancing Divas, which
will showcase prominent dancers from all parts of the world, past
and present. |
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What
is the time line for the launch of Zoom?
Since
we are firming up the FPC by next week, and shows are being done
by several production house, we are most likely looking at an end
September launch. 60 per cent of programming is being done in house,
but we don't have any studio facilities of our own, so everything
is outsourced. We are uplinking from Noida.
We
have taken 80,000 square feet of space in Kamla mills in Mumbai,
and uplinking at some point of time, will come to Mumbai definitely.
We are currently doing up the place, and the whole television wing
will shift there soon.
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Will
Zoom not be very Mumbai centric as of now?
It
will have inputs from Mumbai, Delhi, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Kolkata.
But as of now, since filmdom is here, and many celebrity parties do
happen here, yes, it is tilted towards Mumbai, but Delhi will also
be covered.
We are targeting all the thinking, 14 plus individuals across the
country. |
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But
your shows are of the lifestyle, celebrity, game show genres...how
does it appeal to the thinking individual?
See, every story is a story, how you tell it sets it apart. Lifestyle
is a large canvas, how it's brought out makes the difference. These
are all broad topics and there's nothing to say they won't be interesting. |
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But
how do celebrity shows appeal to the thinking male?
Guys
today want to know what Priety Zinta is wearing, they want to know
where their careers are going, and they want to get inside Amitabh
Bachchan's kitchen...guys also cook these days, and they want to know
more about it too. |
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But
how do you track this elusive thinking viewer?
That's a difficult one, but we are going mostly by gut feel as of
now, and we have used thoroughly the research mechanisms as are available
today. |
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Was
this research done internally?
No, we got an outside agency to do this for us. |
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How
long a gestation period do you give Zoom to break even?
In this day and age of multiple channels, we cannot give just
a year or two to break even. If it took three years too to break even,
we would be happy. |
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Times'
last venture into television was not a very successful one. What
learnings have you carried over from the last experience this time?
When
we started television earlier, we were constantly debating. And
while we were doing that, some steps were taken to enter the arena.
Then the top management decided that we should pay more attention
to print. The print gameplan was drawn out in detail.
The
top management then decided that with the limited management resources
at the time, we would establish leadership in print, particularly
in Delhi and Bangalore, and once that is done, we would enter television
with our full might. Which is probably why it more a half hearted
attempt at some programming for Doordarshan and the like, never
all out as will be the case now.
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So,
will there be a different approach taken to television this time round?
This time, we have not shied away from investment, around Rs 300
crore is being pumped in. If more is needed, it will be put in. This
time, we are going the whole hog, as we have done in our other projects. |
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Is
programming for Zoom more expensive than for general entertainment
channels?
It would be difficult to say whether a non fiction like the one
we are making would be considerably cheaper, because some shows would
be as costly as soaps. |
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But
are the shows largely studio based?
Not
necessarily. A lot of our celebrity based shows are not studio-based,
you also go to their places. But of course, we are not going to exotic
locations to shoot like the film people do, we are not doing anything
of the sort. So, it will cost less than what a general entertainment
channel full of soaps may cost, but at the same time, because a lot
of our programming is in
house, there is a lot of economy because we don't pay margins outside.
On the other hand, when we took on Balaji, we knew we would be paying
what was needed, so we didn't shy away from that as well. |
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What
kind of advertising are you looking at?
We
are targeting aspirational brands, auto, lifestyle, MNCs, fast moving
goods that lend to television, and all those products that lend to
visual advertising will be targeted. |
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Would
you go in for advertorials?
We
haven't yet decided a policy that we will have advertorials, but we
are not averse to having advertorials, though at this stage, a proper
policy has not evolved yet. |
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Will
there be any bundling with other Times brands?
We
are looking at that, and the sale is being done by our Response team.
A team has been carved out of the same team that sells print, and
it reports to the same director, so if he feels that there is a need
to bundle the products, it can be done. |
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Will
Zoom be under Entertainment Network India Limited (which runs Times'
FM initiative, Radio Mirchi)?
No,
it will be under Bennett, Coleman and Company Limited. But wherever
there are synergies between the various divisions of the company,
like radio, internet, music and print, the synergies will be exloited. |
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What
are the marketing and promotional efforts in place for Zoom?
There
will be a contest on whose voice is being used in the channel promos,
cross promotions will happen on Radio Mirchi, the Internet will be
used, as also bus shelters, and the teaser campaign is also ready.
Lemon, which is handling the creative account, has shot the promo
campaign in Dubai.
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What
is happening on the magazine front, the deal with the BBC?
The
deal is secured, but the government has not cleared it. |
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