| Interview with television
anchor Sajid Khan |
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"The
moment you get too big for your boots, people will give you
a kick on your posterior"
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| Posted on 30
April 2004 |
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On the tube, a
show that he anchors Ikke-Pe-Ikka has crossed many a milestone
and now he is hosting another show Sab Kuch Ho Sakta Hai on
Sab TV along with Suresh Menon. He is also directing a series for
Ram Gopal Verma's film. He has interviews scheduled back to back
all day, followed by an overseas tour in the next few hours. All
this, after he has completed radio shows. Did we mention that he
had a late night yesterday?
Who said being in the entertainment industry was easy? And the
expectation are even more when you are a hi-profile choreographer-turned-director's
brother.
At his palatial flat in Juhu, the jocular Sajid Khan gets a
trifle serious with indiantelevision.com's Vickey Lalwani.
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You
have proved that you have a penchant for mimicry and acting. But
you never pursued acting. Why?
I
have been comfortable staging the odd act. But honestly speaking,
I never wanted to be typecast. Today, actors are known by the characters
they play. Someone like Pankaj Kapur, for instance, is still remembered
as Karamchand. I have a different perspective; I want people to
remember me, not any character that I played. I wanted to make it
big as Sajid Khan.
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But
your entry hasn't exactly been smooth sailing.
(Laughs) The first show I did was Main Bhi Detective. Disaster
would be an understatement as I remember the flak I, in particular,
had received for this show. Critics
had written me off. I often read articles, which said that I should
be banned.
While I accept all criticism gracefully, I believe that a player
is just a minuscule part of the game. Criticism should be directed
at the game and not the player. The show was extremely amateurish
in concept. Especially after the resounding success of Saap Seedi,
the audience must have expected a lot more. The critics always kept
reminding the public that I was a guy, who accepted a disaster Main
Bhi Detective and rejected a blockbuster like Antakshari.
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You
rejected Antakshari? No kidding.
I'm
serious! As I mentioned earlier, I wanted to establish my own identity.
And when I was offered to host Antakshari, I immediately
realised that the show is an outright winner - fantastic conceptualisation,
lavish sets, great strategy. But the pressure of if I would be able
to do justice to such an amazing concept or not got to me. I developed
cold feet and refused it. But Annu Kapoor has done a fantastic job.
He is someone who is just effortless. Whether it's acting or singing,
he is at ease.
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But
then the audience realised that humour is your forte?
The turning point was a call from Kailash Gandhi. He offered me
Ikke Pe Ikka on Zee Cinema. It was a resounding success and
was followed by another hit show Kehne Mein Kya Harz Hai,
which was basically a spoof-based show.
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Why wasn't your third show 'Sajid No. 1' as successful. Why do you
think that happened especially since your two earlier comedies shows
had hit the jackpot?
After Kehne Mein Kya Harz Hai, the audience was expecting
another spoof, I guess, while Sajid No. 1 was basically a
show with a plenty of bedroom humour. It was something on the lines
of Bottoms Up, with English jokes involving plenty of puns.
The
language was a barrier. But something that irked me was the title.
I was quite embarrassed by the title. I thought it sounded too high
and mighty. But that was the phase when the 'No. 1' trend had started.
I gave them the idea to spoof the title in the song. But the moment
you get too big for your boots, the people will give you a kick
on your posterior. I am sure that just like me, many others would
also have been put off by the title.
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After
'Jhooth Bole Kauwa Kaate', you stopped acting?
Because the offers that came were horrendous. I preferred to stick
to my 'standup' comedy.
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"The
act of making an audience laugh is like facing a boxer whom
you have never boxed against"
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What
are the basic criteria required to succeed as a standup comedian?
The
people either need to like your eyes, your smile, your voice, your
style - any one thing. You need atleast one USP.
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And
your USP is…?
Hmmm…
my interactive nature. That, and also the fact that I prefer not
to stick to the same, old cliché humour. I experiment and
try my best to dish out something new. Pray that it stays that way.
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Despite
being successful, you have had a negative aura around your image.
Comment.
Well,
I think that's the price you pay for speaking your mind. I call
a spade a spade and so, I guess, I often come across as brash and
arrogant.
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So
do you get any hate mail?
I used to get it. Not any more. People have accepted me for
what I am. They know that I basically just indulge in pulling people's
leg. Does anybody now say that Salman Khan has not worn a shirt?
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You
have the unique ability of making people laugh. What is it about
humour that it is so difficult to make people laugh?
The
crux is that just like everything else, in humour too, different
people have different tastes. In certain sections, vulgar jokes
are a hit, in others, they enjoy wry, subtle and classy humour.
Then, some sections enjoy slapstick comedy. That's the reason you
have to keep experimenting.
Anybody
who claims that he has prepared an entire standup comedy show, complete
with a bound script beforehand, is a fool. The act of making an
audience laugh is like facing a boxer whom you have never boxed
against.
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And
what if the audience is not responding appreciatively to your jokes?
That's exactly why I said that working by a bound script is unwise.
You have to change the track. I have always maintained that doing
a live comedy show is 30 per cent preparation and 70 per cent spontaneity.
You
need to have this huge bank of one-liners stored in your memory
and use them to break the monotony now and then. And also, you need
to attempt to find the pulse of the audience.
When
I go for shows abroad, I travel across different countries. How
can the people in LA react the same way as the people of Manchester?
In Canada, there are more Punjus (Punjabis). In New York, there
are more Gujjus (Gujaratis). Ditto for different cities in India.
Someone who just stands and rattles off joke after joke won't be
as liked as a person, who interacts with the audience and involves
them too. You actually have to be one of the people and not just
pretend that way.
It
is always better that you are not a six-foot Greek God. Average
lookers would always make better standup comedians and I, for that
matter, come in the below-average category (laughs). Another important
quality of someone, who wants to make people laugh, is being able
to laugh at oneself.
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But
what is your take on standup comedians getting into trouble? The
recent Shekhar Suman-Shakti Kapoor controversy being one of the
instances…
That's the most difficult part about humour. Humour always tends
to affect the sensibilities and sensitivities of people. In standup
comedy especially, the joke is usually targeted at a certain person
and it depends on that person how he takes the joke. But the key
is subtlety.
It
is an art wherein you make your point and yet do not offend the
target. For example, if I have to comment on Govinda's clothes,
instead of a rude statement like "Chi Chi looked like a clown",
I would rather comment "Chi Chi, you were looking good, but
who on earth designed your clothes? Calvin Clown?"
I
cannot comment on the Shekhar-Shakti controversy as I have no idea
about it, though I must say that Shekhar is fabulous at his work,
simply the best. And then, in India, you cannot avoid controversy.
You are not supposed to joke about politics, religion is a no-no
as well. Sex is another thing we cannot joke about. But pray tell
me, what isn't it shown in films and television. So eventually what
on earth are you supposed to joke about? (Shrugs).
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So
do you mean that you, Shekhar and other similar artistes would have
done better abroad?
Maybe
yes and maybe no. For all you know, we may never have got a chance
abroad. It's a very hypothetical question. It's easy to say that
there are more opportunities and scope abroad. But the real game
begins when you land there.
Haven't several people returned to their roots unsuccessful in almost
every sphere of life? I won't crib because I feel it's extremely
immature to blame your country for what you are. Many youngsters
today feel that they would have been better off had they been abroad,
but what I want to tell these youngsters is that they should be
thankful to their country for bringing them from nowhere to where
they are now.
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"I
call a spade a spade and so, I guess, I often come across as
brash and arrogant" |
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Going
to Shah Rukh Khan on stage. Do you think it has been fair on his
part to have made digs at so many people in the industry, courtesy
the recent award functions?
I don't know why people made such an issue of it. Shah Rukh
entered the industry with a lot of brashness. Pre Deewana,
he said in an interview that he is a much better actor than Dilip
Kumar. Along the way, he lost that hard-hitting negativity. I think
he came to the forefront again with Filmfare.
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You
spoke about Punjus and Gujjus being a part of your audience overseas.
Do white men come to see your show?
Not
many. They prefer seeing Britney Spears (laughs).
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Abroad,
there are schools teaching stand-up comedy. We have nothing of that
sort here…
I
am not going to complain about that. If you are a journalist, that's
because there's a journalistic streak in you. You want to find out
about other people's lives (laughs). Tell me, how many journalists
have done a course in journalism?
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Factors
you weigh before taking up an assignment?
If
I get to know you well in the next ten days and we gel with each
other, I am ready to act in your show. I think that I have answered
your question!
I
would rather be a Survivor than a Super Star (smiles).
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Does
Indian television have enough laughter?
As I told you, we have inhibitions about cracking humour on
politics, religion and sex. Thus, Indian television is quite weepy.
And I am yet to come across a person, who says that he hasn't experienced
any stress during a given day. Sad state of affairs, actually.
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Whom
do you idolise?
Nobody can beat Groucho Marx. Kishore Kumar would come second,
Kader Khan a close third. I can never forget Khan Saab's dialogues
- so stupid but yet so witty and whacky.
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How
did direction happen? How was it directing a portion of Ram Gopal
Varma's forthcoming 'Darna Zaroori Hai'?
I
always had an urge to direct a film. I've one of the largest personal
collections of DVDs and have been following the finer points and
nuances, discussed after every Hollywood film on the DVD.
Ramuji approached me for a role in one of the segments of Darna
Zaroori Hai. I wasn't comfortable acting and suggested a story
which I have been thinking about. He, without much ado, asked me
to direct it. My whole point of view towards directors has changed.
Earlier I didn't know what a director meant.
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He
offered you a film, despite you making some uncharitable remarks
about his films 'Daud'...
I've always been honest in my annotations and Ramuji appreciates
honesty and understands and appreciates humour. Hypocrisy doesn't
work in the long run. Why do you bypass the fact that I showered
praises on his Rangeela and Satya?
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What
next on these lines?
I
am ready with two scripts, an out-and-out comedy and an out-and-out
action film. I have signed up with a producer whose identity I cannot
reveal until he makes a formal announcement. We start with our first
project next year. For the action flick, I would prefer having Sanjay
Dutt and Ajay Devgan.
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