| Indiantelevision.com's
Interview with scriptwriter Rajesh Joshi |
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"'Kyunki...'
was a trend set by Balaji Telefilms and then all the other
production houses followed the same trend"
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| Posted on 3 December
2003 |
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Jack
of all trades and a master too... that's what sums up actor, director
and scriptwriter Rajesh Joshi. Recognised mostly for his short role
as Chirag's secretary Pinku in the popular daily soap Kyunki
Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi (which is penned by him), Joshi has been
involved with theater since the last 25 years or so.
After spending 10 years working as a chartered
accountant with a company called N.J. Pharmaceuticals Ltd, Joshi
decided in March 1999 to leave the job and plunge into directing
plays.
Serials happened for him after meeting Ekta
Kapoor and hence began his stint as a scriptwriter starting with
the serial Koshish Ek Aasha (Zee). After that came Koi
Apna Sa (Zee), Kkusum (Sony), Smriti (Channel Nine
Gold), Kasautii Zindagii Kay (Star Plus) and Shenai
(Doordarshan). For now Joshi is giving his undivided attention to
Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi.
Joshi gives indiantelevision.com's Hetal
Adesara a sneak peek into a serial writers' world and his
reasons for writing only one soap; that too at a time when most
people are writing nineteen to a dozen. Excerpts:
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You've been an actor and a director, and now
you're totally involved with writing. How and when did you get bitten
by the writing bug?
I had never really thought about getting into writing as I didn't
want to get into this genre. One day my associate colleague Vipul
Mehta who was writing Captain House for Balaji Telefilms
came to me and asked me to join his team.
At that time I was directing a play and then I
thought over his offer and thought to myself - Why not try something
which is totally new? That's when I met Ekta Kapoor for the first
time and had a long discussion on daily soaps. My first daily soap
was Koshish Ek Aasha.
After that Ekta came with a new idea called Amma
which is now one of the most popular serials on air but only with
a different name - Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi.
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What are the essential qualities required to
be a good writer?
The first and most important thing is that a person writing for
television should be creative. By creative I mean that they should
have the basic knowledge of dramatics - how to develop a concept
and how to develop the characters according to the concept.
I don't know if there are any particular qualities
that a person should have to become a writer. Every writer has different
qualities in them and they work according to their own perceptions
and thinking.
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What kind of adjustments does a writer have
to make in order to write for TV serials?
A writer has to make a lot of adjustments. The availability of artists
is one of the major problems that writers are facing. Our script
is ready most of the time and then we are told at the last minute
by the production people that a particular artist is not available.
So we have to change the script and incorporate the change which
makes it very difficult for us to justify our screenplay.
Another adjustment is locations. Sometimes a location
is available and sometimes it is not. These small things call for
a major rework on our behalf and that is frustrating.
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Amarr Upadhyay was brought back in Kyunki after
popular demand. Obviously it was not in the script...
(interrupts)... Of course it was in the script. Amarr died in episode
number 118 and we had planned to bring him back in episode number
150. But when we saw that the public was missing him and wanted
him back we just reworked our plan and brought him back a little
earlier than scheduled. That was the only adjustment we made.
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"When
we saw that the public was missing Mihir we just reworked
our plan and brought him back a little earlier than scheduled"
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Is there channel interference in a writer's
arena? It is known that plots change with TRPs. So, how does it
affect you?
There is absolutely no channel interference, we are very lucky
in that matter. We interact with Ekta Kapoor, in fact she is the
only one we interact with. I think Ekta is the only producer who
never allows any interference as far as her serials are concerned.
So we have that priviledge compared to writers in other production
houses.
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How do you go about writing on an everyday basis?
We have one creative meeting every 15 days. My team of writers and
I sit with Ekta and churn out the creative portions after discussions
about the future tracks. For example, right now, we are working
on the December end episodes. We are at least 15 - 16 episodes ahead.
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"The
people and the team make a serial like Kyunki... huge"
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People usually crib about the 'saas-bahu' serials
on TV but these are the serials that are still watched by millions
of women and these serials and their characters are the ones who
bag the top awards. What do you think is the reason behind this?
The people and the team make a serial like Kyunki... huge.
When we started writing it in 2000 we had not thought of the kind
of success it would get. Secondly, just a few months after the serial
started it was already riding high on TRPs and has remained at the
top of the charts since then.
Addiction is the other aspect. People are used
to watching it by now. Of course we try to give the audience different
stuff all the time but sometimes it is not possible.
Also characterisation plays a major role like Tulsi,
Ba, Savita. These are strong and powerful actors who are liked by
the audience.
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What in your opinion is lacking in television
today?
Creativity is lacking in television today. If channels find that
the market for the 'saas bahu' kind of serials is very strong and
is getting good TRPs, then they go after the same kind of serials.
So it boils down to following trends rather than making new ones.
Kyunki... was a trend set by Balaji Telefilms
and then all the other production houses followed the same trend.
Good product is not necessarily yielded by other production houses.
As a result, television as a whole is getting affected. New ideas
have to come about.
One example of a good trend setting serial is Aatish
Kapadia's Khichdi. They have their own set of rules and creativity
which is different from the rest.
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"One
example of a good trend setting serial is Aatish Kapadia's
Khichdi"
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How significant are TRP ratings for you - do they influence
what you write or how you write?
Not at all. The TRP ratings are basically for the producers and
not for the writers. If one day our serial gets low ratings it will
not affect our creativity. The level of our working will be same
whether it is a TRP of four or 14.
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Supposing your show is getting low TRPs, you
as a writer will have to spruce up things in order to build up viewership.
Right?
Even if the TRP is on the same level, we are trying our best. So
it is not about the ratings at all from the writer's point of view.
If the show gets a TRP of 14 the producer will ask us to buck up
and try and get a TRP of 16 or 17 or 18.
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Is writing satisfying in terms of remuneration?
It depends upon the production houses, the writers and also upon
the terms of contract. Television writers today are definitely getting
a good amount.
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What are the problems you faced as a writer
in this industry? How do you deal with them?
This is my fourth year with Ekta Kapoor and so far I haven't had
any major problems. Difference of opinion is always going to be
there. I may agree with one particular thing whereas another may
not agree with it. It's a part of creativity.
A writer is the original creator of the serial
and so he does command respect and it is given to him also. On the
whole as a writer I haven't faced any problems till now.
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At the end of the day are you happy with what
you see on television in terms of what you have written? Do you
feel the director is doing justice to what you have written?
After we write the script it goes through a lot of processes before
it is shot. When we create certain scenes on paper, we narrate it
to Ekta. She chips in her creative input and we rewrite the scenes
to incorporate the change. Then the script goes to the production
people for scheduling purpose. It may happen that the location that
we have suggested in one scene may not be available at that day
of the shoot so an alternative location is zeroed on.
Then the screenplay goes to the dialogue writer
who pens down the dialogues. Then that copy goes to the director
who interprets in his own way. The matter of interpretation differs
from person to person. So when we see the final output and compare
it to original screenplay, we definitely find it different in terms
of the creativity and expression.
When we give an episode, we know that it is not
going to come exactly as we had visualised it. But sometimes it
does happen our screenplay is portrayed in a much better way by
actors like Smriti, Apara and Sudhaji.
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Why is there a difference between screenplay
writing and dialogue writing? Can't the screenplay writers pen the
dialogues too?
Generally 90 per cent of screenplay writers are dialogue writers.
I was writing three daily soaps initially and it was not possible
for me to churn out dialogues for all of them. Now I have restricted
myself to only one serial and that is Kyunki
it takes
around four- five hours to complete a script. So to create a script
it takes around 10 hours.
Secondly there are certain departments here, the
people who writes the dialogues are experts in their field.
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"When
we see the final output and compare it to original screenplay,
we definitely find it different in terms of creativity and
expression"
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Have you come across a situation where you've
felt stagnated in your thought process? How have you come out of
it?
By stopping the work. Sometimes stagnation affects our work but
sometimes it doesn't. Suppose we start out with making a bank of
20 episodes, it may happen that after writing 10 episodes we get
stuck. In such a situation we don't go ahead with writing just for
the heck of it.
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So it means that if such a mental block comes
up you have the luxury of time to think without it affecting the
shooting of the serial
Right now, yes we have that luxury of time because I am handling
only one serial. But when I was handling more serials it was difficult.
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At that time what did you do? Did you compromise
on the quality of writing?
I will not say that I have never compromised. Of course I have compromised
sometimes on creativity but to a very less extent. After completing
700 episodes if I am told to come up with something new, then it
will be difficult. So we keep trying our best.
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"Of
course I have compromised on creativity sometimes but to a
very less extent"
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Are you planning to write for any other serials
too?
No. I want to do only one serial at a time. At the most I can do
another weekly but not another daily.
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How far do you see 'Kyunki...' going? The serial
has already taken a 20 year leap
what next?
I think the serial will run for at least another two years. That's
my expectation. We are aiming for an entry in the Guniess Book of
World records for the longest running serial. Right now the record
is in the name of the serial Ek Mahal Ho Sapno Ka which is
the longest running serial with 1000 episodes. Kyunki... is
running strong at 700+ and that too at the number one position,
so that is a bonus for us.
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