| Interview with Rose Movies' Shristi Arya |
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"With films you have your story
in place, the same cannot be said of television"
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| Posted on 3 November
2003 |
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A
fiercely independent lady, Shristi Arya never believed in taking
life easy. Even as a young girl of 15, she took up a marketing job
to get some pocket money. Arya has been in the industry for over
16 years now, and her production house Rose Movies has finally come
of age with its shift to television software from films.
Along
with her brother Goldie Behl, Arya took up the responsibility of
their father's production house after his sudden demise in 1990.
Since then, the 31-year-old Shristi and her younger brother, have
been battling it out. Neither of their big screen ventures worked
great guns, but with
her TV debut, Lipstick
on Zee TV, came a round of reckoning. Today,
the lady isn't bitter at all but is gearing up for her next move.
Rose
Movies has just launched Jeet
on Star Plus and has a couple of pilots ready to be pitched to
the channels. Indiantelevision.com's
Trupti
Ghag meets
up with the lady and gets chatting about her shows, and more. Excerpts
from the interview:
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When and how did you take up the responsibility of Rose Movies?
Rose is our father's company. He passed away in 1990, so the
responsibility shifted to us. But since we were minors, our mother
stepped in, even if only to sign the cheques. The rest of the job
was ours. We made two films - Angarey and Bas Itna Sa
Khwab Hai - after our father's death. Bas... was my brother
Goldie's directorial debut.
However, in time we realised that while we were looking out for
film scripts, we had to do something to generate revenue. We had
the entire infrastructure in place; people working since our father's
time were still with us. I knew we had to generate some work, but
didn't want to push Goldie into his next film just to keep the office
running either. So
television was a natural progression… Then Zee's Lipstick
happened.
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I am told that 'Lipstick' was the channel's concept. What was your
input to the show? Did the channel give you a line-by-line break
up?
Yes, Lipstick was the channel's concept. But all that
the channel gave us was a brief outline; we started from scratch.
Both our ideation department and Zee's creative department worked
on it and built it up.
We
sat down and worked out all the characters and the back stories.
And since it was our first show and we had the luxury of time, we
sketched out the story in detail, though we knew we wouldn't need
all the details at any point of time.
For
example, we have worked out Suniti and her sister Suman's age difference
in the serial. While these points are not an obvious part of the
story line, they are portrayed in the attitude of the characters.
After
this, I added certain nuances to the story (from a woman's perspective,
that is). I think, I made a show that I would like to watch.
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A Still from Zee's Lipstick
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"I guess it is mandatory to
include a love story"
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When 'Lipstick' started off, its story line was quite bold. Now
it seems to be shifting gears to being a family drama. Why?
We had several tracks that were bold.
Even now, Suniti's family is the same; and we have not added any
new family or created new characters to 'shift gears'. Kahin
se nai buaji nahi aagai hai (No aunt has sprouted from somewhere).
We are working within the same parameters, but we also take into
consideration audience feedback.
People
used to enjoy Lipstick's family moments, so we developed
it. After all, it's all about what the consumers want to watch.
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Were
you convinced about it? The peg that you worked on was about two
women in a magazine business. Now it seems to have translated into
a family feud.
It is still that. They are still bickering over the business.
It is still a power struggle. It is still about the control over
the company. Suniti marries Tarun knowing that only if she is a
Singhania, can she have control over the company.
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What
about the casting? Did you have any hand in it?
Yes. We went through video tapes
and auditioned a number of people and finally zeroed in on the actors.
In fact, most of them were rank newcomers.
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Just
recently, you revamped the show and changed the lead characters.
Isn't it likely to affect the show's viewership?
Shweta Salve (who
played Suniti earlier) had to take a break for 20 days. We
could not bank so many episodes before she left. Lipstick
being a daily show, the pressure was building up even more.
Since
we couldn't run a show without the chief protagonist, the other
option was to change the actor. So
we had an intensive meeting with the channel.
Zee
had earlier succeeded in changing the main character and still running
a show well (Hasratein - in which Seema Kapoor was replaced
by Shefali Shetty). We also needed somebody who the audience was
already familiar with and could identify with. So we got in Gautami
Kapoor. Vishal Singh was also brought in for star value. Fortunately,
we have noticed a slight upward trend in our TRPs, so we have been
lucky.
As
for repackaging the show, we had already done about 198 episodes
and thought a new look would be a value-add. So we repackaged
it and made it a 200th episode special.
Now Lipstick has a little more gloss, a little more of human
interest. Earlier, we used to skim a lot of issues, but now, based
on viewers' feedback, we improvise on them. I am in constant touch
with the viewers via e-mail.
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Yet,
the content seems to have diluted now. Earlier the show was very
crisp.
Most television shows battle for attention. Our show was going
very fast. On the other side of the TV screen, viewers wait for
commercial breaks to get chapattis or run out of the room
to switch off the gas. We realised that if they return a few seconds
after the serial starts, they should not miss out on a lot.
Now,
in Lipstick, the story moves a trifle slowly, so that the
audience don't lose track. Having done films in the past, we often
got too pacy while making serials. There are those nitty-gritties
about a television show that we are now getting the hang of.
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Now
that you have mentioned it, how different is doing a TV series from
a feature film?
Well, with film you can manipulate the budget but a television
show has to be shot within budget constraints. TV has been a wonderful
learning experience for me in terms of production. If film shooting
is delayed by a day or a week, it's okay. But
you can't have a blank half-hour on TV. Though it seems a little
tough, I think it enforces discipline.
Plus,
I think you have far more professional people in television. Sometimes,
you have to shoot even if it is not an ideal circumstance.
Also,
with films you have your story in place, the same cannot be said
of television.
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So
'Lipstick' doesn't have a finite story.
No it doesn't. Initially when we started, Lipstick was
a battle for power between two women. In soaps, when you do a character
driven story, viewers get involved in their lives. The characters
continue and they do not have a finite story (being so close to
real life), so how can the show?
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"Production
is a thankless job"
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A still from Star Plus' Jeet
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You
have canned a couple of episodes of 'Shakalaka Boom Boom' (on Star
Plus). How was it shooting a kid's show? What kind of problems did
you face?
We have shot a few episodes, but it is yet to be aired. As
far as kids go, they are better actors than adults. But you have
to bribe them a lot (laughs).
On the downside, kids are not full-time actors, so you cannot expect
them to work round the clock. Plus, with the harsh environment,
they are susceptible to fall ill often.
On
the programming front, you have to do a mind shift. You have to
get into the child's mindset to make a children's show.
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'Shakalaka... ' is otherwise being produced by UTV. Didn't it bother
you that you were replacing them?
It is not a replacement, it's simply a different story and
a different treatment. Star Plus has worked a new angle around it
and that's why we were roped in.
As
for UTV, I am much in awe of their work; they have and are still
doing a great job. Hats off to them!
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Do you think we need more shows catering to kids?
I think the trend has already started; we have a lot of shows
for kids.
Do you know a lot of children watch Lipstick! Once we had a
kids' picnic next to the shooting site and we heard kids whispering
Nigar Khan's screen name (Sheetal). Some tykes even started singing
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What
do you think is Sheetal 's USP?
Nigar, who does Sheetal, is a great actor. We never saw her
as a vamp. We always believed that we have two main protagonists
in the show. We don't think she is negative, just that she has grey
shades.
Sheetal
is an aggressive woman who gets what she wants. In her mind, she
isn't doing any wrong. She genuinely thinks that Suniti is wrong.
Sheetal is a dramatised version, fighting for attention.
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How
did 'Jeet' come about? Was it your idea or the channel's?
A bit of both, actually. We generally got talking on the spheres
of life that are identifiable, but haven't yet been exploited on the
screen. We then decided to do a campus show, but for a change decided
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Isn't
it a 'Boston Public' kind of a format?
No. Boston Public can't be done in India. The issues
are very different. If you do a Boston Public here, then
you got to start with a premise that the principal represents a
minority because in Boston Public, you have an African-American
as the principal. That
itself raises quite a lot of issues.
Then
again, you will have to have a Jewish vice principal. Also, in India,
we don't have students who take out a gun in the classroom. That's
not how we conceptualise our colleges.
We
still have a guru-shisya parampara in India. I've never heard
of kids slapping the teacher here.
The
only reason why Jeet resembles Boston Public is because
at the basic premise, it deals with teachers. That's about it.
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What
is 'Jeet' about?
Professors. You never think of them as people with emotions
- they are just teachers.
Professors
in India face various problems - they don't have a highly paid job,
to begin with. Monetary
issues often bother college teachers, but nobody pays any attention
to that. Plus,
they have to face a class full of students every day, of which almost
90 per cent don't think they are learning anything productive.
The
show deliberately focuses on junior college because we believe that
there are plenty of issues to be tackled in this arena. The show
also has a great love story woven into it.
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What
issues would you be dealing with in the serial?
We will deal with issues like class differences, students' interests,
under-performance pressure, sibling rivalry, college elections, and
so on. But the issues won't make the show preachy, it will be entertaining.
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How
different is the production treatment in 'Jeet' vis-à-vis
'Lipstick'?
Since Jeet is a weekly, there has to be a lot of content.
In the 45 minutes airtime, a lot many issues are dealt with. In
a weekly, you can take a little more time, the scenes can be slightly
longer.
On
the other hand, in Lipstick, if you get into a long scene,
the audience interest drops and it becomes boring. Production-wise,
the amount of time we spend working on four episodes of Jeet
is the same as the time spent on 12-15 episodes of Lipstick.
Then
again, Lipstick is a more set format - actors are far more
clued in.
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What
is 'Jeet's budget?
I can't tell you that. We have a 40,000 sq feet set in Kamalistan.
We did shoot some scenes in another house, but predominantly it
is studio shot.
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Was
the love angle mandatory in 'Jeet'?
You need a lot of layers to run a one-hour show, plus we didn't
want to be too preachy. I guess at some level, it is mandatory. It
is a human emotion - you need love, jealousy, and one-upmanship to
portray a complete character. Unless you want to show that teachers
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A
hypothetical question. If you are asked to put 'Jeet' in a family
drama mould, what would you do?
If that's what the audience wants, I will try and work out
something, keeping the dignity of my show intact.
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Did
you think that the main concept remained intact, when Star Plus'
changed its hospital drama into a family drama?
If you are talking about Sanjivani, we cannot do a show
like ER in India. It's too depressing, you cannot watch it
while you are having your dinner. As it is, you are fatigued, you
would rather see something entertaining. Television still is the
largest form of entertainment and the second cheapest form of entertainment
after sex (laughs).
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Whatever
happened to realism and creative stories? Does everything have to
go the 'saas-bahu' way?
When you get completely pay TV, probably then can you get an
idea of what people want to watch. Most people say that they don't
watch saas bahu soaps, then why are they running? It's a
business like any other, channels aren't stupid trying to dish out
something that has no demand.
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What
is the main grouse of producers?
Production is a thankless job. You'll appreciate a scriptwriter,
a director, a set director or even the canteen boy, but not the producer.
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What
is the production fraternity's reaction to CAS?
The production fraternity is a paranoid lot, anyway. Whereas
earlier it was Bollwood rejected producers who shifted to television
software, these days more serious players are making their entry.
In my opinion, the implementation of CAS will really tell us what
it is that viewers are actually watching. It's that simple.
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