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| Indiantelevision.com's
interview with Hathway Cable & Datacom MD and CEO
K Jayaraman |
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'Digitisation
will not spur irrational price war as the Santa
Clauses are broke'
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| Posted
on 10 January 2011 |
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Hathway
Cable & Datacom has an ambitious investment plan
of Rs 10 billion as India opens up to digitisation across
the country.
In
the first phase, Indias leading multi-system operator
(MSO) plans to invest Rs 1.75 billion even as it expects
DTH to take away 10-15 per cent of its cable TV subscribers
in the two lucrative markets of Delhi and Mumbai.
Sitting
on a cash pile of Rs 2 billion, Hathway will not source
equity finance at this stage. Though net losses will
drag on for a long period in a digital environment,
the MSO hopes to regain its old valuations if it manages
to successfully implement the early phase of digitisation.
Even
as carriage revenue will shrink, Hathways endeavour
will be to have an Ebitda of 20-25 per cent right from
the start of mandated digitisation.
In
an interview with Indiantelevision.coms
Sibabrata Das,
Hathway Cable & Datacom MD & CEO K Jayaraman
talks about how no cable or direct-to-home company is
in financial health to launch an irrational price war.
He also elaborates on the MSOs digitisation gameplan.
Excerpts:
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DTH companies have made rapid progress in recent years.
How is Hathway Cable & Datacom prepared to exploit
the first phase of digitisation?
We plan to invest Rs 1.75 billion in the first phase.
This will include Rs 200 million towards marketing in
Mumbai and Delhi over the next 6-8 months. It is the
first time that we are splurging on media campaigns.
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Are you comfortably placed on the funding part or
you plan to raise fresh capital?
We have a cash pile of Rs 2 billion. We will not
source equity finance at this stage. We are comfortably
placed and will manage with bank debt and vendor credit.
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Will you need funding in the second stage?
We will see when we reach there. We have already
digitised around two million homes. We will need to
digitise our remaining 6-8 million existing homes (including
multiple TVs). Our funding requirement will be Rs 10
billion as we need to subsidise the set-top box (STB)
cost and make further investment in infrastructure.
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Hathway was selling at Rs 500 a STB to its customers
in voluntary digitisation. Will you further subsidise
the boxes in a mandated digitisation environment?
We are looking at charging Rs 750-790 a STB (including
taxes) as the rupee has depreciated against the dollar.
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"LCOs
will get a revenue share of 30-35%. They will
gain from 2nd TV homes, operational efficiencies
and Vas. Distributors will get a 5% rev share.
They will also get a 30% share in carriage revenues"
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But DTH could go aggressive and there could be a price
war situation?
We wont sell below this even if there is
a price war. We do not have the financial resources
to further subsidise the boxes.
We,
however, feel that no player is in a position to indulge
in an irrational price war. Nobody in cable can do so.
DTH will fight for market share on the basis of perception
and brand. All the Santa Clauses are broke.
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Are you expecting a migration to DTH?
We expect DTH to take away 10-15 per cent of our
cable TV subscribers in the two lucrative markets of
Delhi and Mumbai. But we see a surge in second TV homes.
Besides, we will launch three packages lower,
middle and top-end. In all the packages, we will have
a price advantage. Also, we will have more channels
on offer than DTH because of our bandthwidth superiority.
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Will
the supply of STBs be impacted due to a sudden rise
in demand?
We have ordered 1.3 million digital STBs and signed
a letter of intent for another 0.5 million. We estimate
our subscriber universe to be 1.5 million in Mumbai
and Delhi. About 20 per cent of this will be second
TV sets.
We
also have a presence in Kolkata through our joint venture
company, Gujarat Telelinks Pvt. Ltd (GTPL), which acquired
a 51 per cent stake in Kolkata Cable and Broadband Pariseva.
We expect to at least seed 400,000 boxes there.
We
have already seeded 250,000 STBs on a voluntary basis
in Delhi and Mumbai.
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Crucial to the whole implementation of digitisation
is the appeasement of the local cable operator (LCO).
Have you fixed the revenue share terms with them?
The LCOs will get a revenue share of 30-35 per cent.
There will be a loss of revenue for them but they will
make up to some extent with the second TV homes, where
they dont usually charge anything from the subscriber.
Besides, they will gain from operational efficiencies
and will discover new homes in a digital environment.
Also, there will be a revenue share for them from value-added-services
(Vas). So they should reasonably settle with us.
The
distributors will get a five per cent revenue share.
They will also get a 30 per cent share in carriage revenues.
In Mumbai, we are comfortable with the distributors.
There may be some issues in Delhi but we will manage
to strike a smooth bond with them.
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Why
havent the MSOs sat down together and decided
on a common share for the LCOs who control the last
mile to the consumer?
That would attract the Competition Commission of
India. But in any other form, we will make efforts to
drive consensus up. We dont want any fissure surfacing
among the stakeholders. We cant afford to derail
DAS (Digital Addressable System).
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Do
you expect carriage revenue to shrink considerably?
We
expect it to shrink by 30 per cent in the digital environment.
This can even go up to 50 per cent. But we will be somewhat
compensated by a reduction in content cost.
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How?
We will do fixed fee deals with broadcasters and
believe content cost in a digital scenario will fall
in the region of 35 per cent. We are close to sealing
deals with two big broadcasting companies.
Even
sports channels should allow us to price reasonably;
customers should take it round-the-year. Otherwise,
we will offer it on a-la-carte basis to consumers.
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Analysts predict that net losses of MSOs will drag on
till at least 2016 in a digital environment?
We cant predict now. But Hathway aims to stay
Ebitda positive. We expect our Ebitda to be at least
in the 20-25 per cent range. We know it will be difficult
at the early stage of digitisation but our endeavour
will be towards achieving that range from the start.
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Hathway had fixed it IPO price band at 240-265 and the
scrip is now quoting at Rs 116 per share. When will
the valuation be regained?
We will regain good valuations if we manage to
seed the boxes. Investors are bothered about that and
not about net profitability at this stage.
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Do you expect the second phase to be tougher for you?
For Hathway, the ride in the second phase could
be even smoother as we have already got a large population
of digital subscribers on a voluntary basis in some
of these major cities like Bangalore and Hyderabad.
Our digital penetration in some of these cities is as
high as 60 per cent. In Gujarat we have seeded 150,000
(out of our
estimated current subscriber universe of 220,000) STBs,
in Hyderabad we have 350,000 (out of 800,000) and in
Bangalore we have a digital population of 275,000 (out
of 400,000).
And
in Jaipur, Indore and Bhopal, we have a digital penetration
of 40 per cent out of our current subscriber base. In
Phase II, we are far ahead.
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Will you follow the acquisition route?
We will not pursue acquisitions and will prefer
to conserve capital for digitisation. We will not do
any more analogue consolidation. It is bad to add analogue
weight in the current circumstances. Our focus will
be on digitsation.
Post
digitisation, we may be interested in acquisition in
some of these cities. But it should come at the right
price.
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Are you looking at launching value-added services?
We will tie up with either Ericsson or Cisco for
Video-on Demand (VoD) services. We will decide in March
whom to partner with. We have launched HD services and
also bundled it with our broadband offering. We hope
it will enhance our average revenue per user (ARPU).
We have 2000 HD subscribers. Given that we get Star
bouquet on HD and spend on marketing, we expect HD to
eventually account for 10 per cent of our subscriber
base.
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Are you bullish on your broadband growth?
Yes, that gives us an advantage over DTH. We are
also ahead of the other big MSOs so far as broadband
goes. We will be bundling broadband with digital cable
to offer better value to the consumers. The broadband
homes passed stand at 1.7 million and our actual subscribers
are 400,000.
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