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Animator
par excellence : Vaibhav Kumaresh
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"When
you love your work there is no
question of burnout !"
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It's
the Mumbai monsoons at their charming best. Overlooking Mumbai's
National Park and situated amidst a beautiful colony, the breeze
at Vaibhav Studios and its sorroundings is lilting.The atmosphere
is conducive to creativity, a very apppropriate place for a guy
like Vaibhav Kumaresh to set up shop in.
For
those in the know, Kumaresh's work speaks volumes for his talent.
Remember that Amaron ad or the Poga character on MTV and Simpoo
on Channel V. There's been many more of late, like The Chase that
he's worked on for Rhythm & Hues' Channel V filler.
The
NID alumnus swears by the grooming he went through at his alma mater
and likes taking things as they come. Animation is something he
loves doing and he took some time off it, to speak to Animation
'xpress' Anand Gurnani and Indiantelevision.com's Trupti Ghag.
Going by that basket full of crumpled papers, you sure must love
doodling?
I love to draw. Is'nt that expected of an animator.
(We
raise our eyes sarcastically...kumaresh gets the message...... and
that sets the ball rolling for the 'Interview)
Excerpts
Yes
nowadays they'd (referring to the animator in 3 months classes)
like to make you believe that it is possible to be a good animator
without being good at drawing, but take my word for it, it's not
possible.
So
what's the sharpest arrow in an animator's quiver? Is it drawing?
See for an animator, he has to be proficient in his drawing skills.
For an animation film maker, he has to be comfortable with drawing
but it's more about the idea or the thing in his head. It's on how
he uses the drawings, the story and comes up with something. That
vital quality is something which I would call an animation film
maker's instinct.
Is
Vaibhav Kumaresh better at story telling than he is at drawing?
Is he a claymation expert? Or is it his insticts?
Let's put it this way, I am a story teller who loves drawing characters.
I have obviously always had an interest in drawing, but unlike others,
my drawings have never been still paintings that told a story. I
always use multiple images to narrate the flow of a story- a story
board kind. It's been like that right since my BFA and throughout
my grooming at NID.
As
far as the claymation expert tag is concerned, I personally am at
ease with working on all kinds of animation projects. It's just
been that there have been more stop motion projects that have come
my way.
But
you have'nt answered my question, what's your USP? Describe yourself
in animator's terms?
I love animation, I am at ease in all kinds of animation and it's
my personal instinct as an animator that eggs me on.
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Vaibhav at work, checking out some character sketches
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"That
vital quality is something which I would call an animation
film maker's instinct."
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How
did you think of taking up animation as a career and how did your
parents react?
I have already mentioned that I had a tendency to draw images. Right
since I was a schoolboy I used to draw a lot of them - in a string
of motion. Before I knew it or even realised, my dad applied for
me at the Chamarajandra Academy of visual arts (CAVA) Mysore.
Your
Dad?
So your parents were ok to the idea of you taking up animation
as a career? Didn't they want their son to be an engineer or a doctor?
As a profession, animation is very new and a very specialised subject.
And there is certainly less awareness. It is a hobby that has become
a profession. Not every one has that make-up for a studious engineer,
scientist or doctor....But I guess, the work put in to become an
ace animator must be as much as you would to become an engineer.
We
take care of the entertainment business. While doctors try to help
live healthier, we also give life to characters (laughs). But yes,
the awareness is definitely building up.
My
parents have always been supportive of my decisions. passed my SSC
in 1990 and had applied for JC as well, but when the BFA option
came my way, I chose it over the traditional one. The course was
for five years and is equivalent to 2+3 and plus you are in a specialized
field.
At
BFA first two years are like foundation so you learn drawing painting,
photography, photojournalism and there is wood cut., etching litho-imo,
printing print making sculpture, wood cutting, clay wood and applied
art and then next three years you specialise.
As
far as a career in animation goes, I myself did'nt have much of
a hint about it. Even when I was finishing my BFA Bachelor
of fine arts from Mysore, I did did not have a clue about Animation
as a career. I had taken up applied ads and was looking forward
to working with ad agencies, on advertising campaigns.
In
my campaign for a television ad, it was always like a story. But
I never knew it would result in an animation.We know animation through
Disney and feature films and that was the only link with animation.
Film division films and all those things were very interesting but
I did not know about that as career.
Then?
How did animation happen?
When I visited NID I came to know that there is an educational course
called animation. And I knew then and there that's where I wanted
to be. It was the summer holidays and most students barring a few
working on projects, were visiting their homes.
The
workplaces were empty but the soft boards were stuffed with projects.
One look and it was clear that this place was buzzing with creativity.
How was the experience at NID?
There's so many different fields, you are sorrounded by creative
people with ideas, working, collaborating on projects. The exposure
that I got was wonderful and very enriching. There are loads of
other academic and extra curricular activities too.
In
animation it is not just that you study your own subject. When you
have to create something you have to draw from your head and create.
There is no actor, no set world, you need to create all that from
your imagination. One has to look around, observe, develop an eye
and a way of looking at things.
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"While
doctors try to help us live healthier, we animators also give
life to characters "
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A
still from - 'The Freedom Song'
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At
NID students are expected to make films all by themselves. It is
definitely a better place to learn for a student. Plus they give
you all facilties.
As
you know in animation there are many processes, Every department
has its share of duties. There's key drawing, clean ups, in betweens,
digital ink and paint and right up till compositing, animatics and
final video output. But at the university (NID), you have to do
all of it by yourself. -- make a story board, book the studio, conceptualise
the music , the look and you have a time frame. And doing three
projects, you would have gone over the processes so many times that
you become a complete film maker.
What
projects did you work on at NID?
The first was a hypothetical filler for DD. If you remember the
good old days of Doordarshan, you probably would clearly remember
the 'Rukavat ke liye khed hain' type of messages.The idea
was to make those DD messages entertaining by using animation. The
character I had thought of did all kind of non-sense.
Then
next we did a seven minute film of teasing the animals in the Zoo.
This was Clay animation, the puppets were made of Armature, wire
frame and all that goes into it.
The
third film, for my final diploma project, it was by that time that
we have one foot in college and one foot in Industry.
My
client was an NGO called Action aid India -it works in rural India
with the local people. They have a company called Practice, they
sponsored my diploma project. I made a seven minute film for them,
which they use in their workshops. For that I was based in Patna
during my diploma project. And during my diploma project I was a
part of their team. They were a bunch of social workers, who had
the local villagers in their team. The basic idea that I was trying
to communicate was that the local people know the best about their
sorroundings. As an outsider you cannot just jump in and decide
what's best for them.
What
form of animation was that?
That was 2-D.
Was
it on celluloid?
Although cellulioid sheets are no more used, it is all digital now.
But the term cell has stuck on part of it was done.
And
then began your professional life...
Yes ...
Where did it begin?
When I was finishing my diploma project, my senior Suresh was already
with famous which was just about being set up. The owner of Famous,
Mr Rungta wanted to set up his own animation studio and initially
Suresh started working on an animated series on Shivaji which was
canned later on.
I had
just completed NID and Suresh invited me onboard.The work at famous
was just begining, so I would have been a part of the inception
team which was quite a big thing and I agreed to join.
How was it like then?
This was in 1998. We were looking at many options but we had one
thing very clear in mind, we would do only original work. We started
talking with the ad guys, we used to do the pitches ourselves. Then
we spoke with the music channel guys. In fact quite a few of my
NID friends and seniors were in both V and Mtv. It was through our
contacts with them that we got our early inroads. Arnab Chaudhari
from V is an NID senior.
New
age entertainment is all about slickness, style and sophistication.
Does animation too need to be slicker in order to compete with other
audio visual media?
I think the first point is the story and the characters who take
the story forward. Lion King is as interesting as Shrek. Lion King
was hand drawn while Shrek is computer generated. The medium doesn't
really matter. Our Kathakali model for MTV was very crude thermacol
model. The fun of it is that you know it is a crude lump of thermacol
but it has eyes and it is performing like a real actor. That's when
people associate themselves with it. It has to be convincing.
As
long as the audience is kept engaged, you are on the right track.
it can be the way the colour is used, ... there are many things
that can capitvate the audience. Basics of film making.
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"In
India,
Music channels started the trend of using animation for TV"
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MTV
Poga
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So
you mean it's the story telling?
There are quite a few instances when the fillers on Channel V and
MTV dont have a story. Like in the Kathakali films there is no story.
It's something more basic than that, it's the idea.
Whats
your view on the following few...
Animation
is an Individual art vs Animation is a collaborative process?
I agree with both. As a film maker's medium it is an indivdual art.
But at the same time it is labor intensive. Commercial animation
is always laced with deadlines and it is of course a very very collaborative
effort so much so that there are people whose jobs are simply to
check and maintain uniformity on content being produced across countries
by people with different mindsets and inclinations.
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Animation:
A collaborative process - The team at Vaibhav Studios
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Original
animation vs production work for overseas clients?
In the industry very few pwople are actually doing original animation.
The thing that you hear about Indian animation boom, and Indian
animaton industry being worth so and so ... You are not creating
your own content, you are executing work for a 3rd party which amongst
things provides reference materials to the minutest of details.
All the studios that have sprouted in the recent times are nothing
but sweat shops. no body wants to do that. Priority of no studio
will be to do sweatshop work, but from the point of view of making
money it is a lucrative business.
So
a majority of such companies have been formed by business men, who
have collaborated with creative people and found a money making
solution. Although , the advertising industry is not as lucrative
as the BPO model, there is lesser amount of risk in it. Because
to sustain such kind of work you have to have a factory set up and
churn out five seconds of animation every day per animator, Even
to churn out half an hour of content you need a week and 400 odd
workers working in shifts. Any ways the investment is very high.
The
issue of TV channels not commisioning animation shows?
Every one would love to make original content, but channels pay
les money and they are not yet sure that animation will work.They
know that if you are making another Kyunki Saas bhi Kabhie Bahu
thi they will invest because it is a tried and test formula, but
animation hasn't worked that kind of a magic yet.
Still
I'd say that the animation situation is improving . Eaier it was
MTV that used a lot of animation, then it was channel V that used
animation. Most of the music channels started using it because they
are youth oriented, now with the kids market being identified as
huge they are resorting to animation.
I must
say that people like Kireet khurana who did Chota Birbal and the
folks at Toonz and whoever's been doing original work for TV deserve
a lot of credit for their effort.
The
quality of Indian animation as compared to international standards?
Indian animation is very young, in US it was there even before Disney.
Some of the work which gets done here and is appreicated the world
over is only 10 % of what we are capable of. People like me are
not as experineced yet. But the good thing is At least we get the
opportunities to showcase our talent.
UTV
Toons, Pentamedia, Crest, Toonz Animation India all have made Tenali
Ramas. Why are there so many Tenalis?
I think it is sheer coincidence. Here you have a ready made cartoon
guy. He was the court jester so it makes sense. But obviously, they
wll be made since already these characters being from the public
domain have a certain familiarity about them which makes it less
risky a proposition for studios.
What's
your take on the recent animation training packages being offered?
The only thing I feel which is lacking is that while students are
taught all the techical know how. they need to be encouraged to
have creative thought processes
John
Lecitor, founder of Pixar is a classical 2-D aniamtor. Your characters
can't act until you know the basics of movement. Like for example
you can't tell a claymation characters to do a 'Jhatka Dance' you
need to know that for yourself."
You
have to know fundamentals of movement. There is no software called
dance.
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"You have to know fundamentals of movement.
There is no software called dance"
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A
still from the smirnoff ad
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When
did you leave Famous?
I left it almost a year ago, there was this project that Narayan
Shi (of The Freedom Song fame) was working on titled Friend. He
was talking to many studios and animators but no one was willing
to back him on his project. I found his concept to be amazing and
volunteered to work with him on it. The contract at Famous was such
that I could'nt freelance for anyone.
Your working time would have been divided and ....
No. I would have done it in my spare time, I am a professional and
would'nt have let the project affect my output or involvement at
Famous. Anyway I had to opt for either of the 2 and I decided that
it was time I took the solo route.
How has the going been?
I am loaded with work. I have said no to so many assignments, some
clients have even volunteered to wait for me. Every day there there
are new projects.
It's been a new experience, dealing with the studio guys, the sound
recordists, everything, it's just like at NID where one had to do
everything. I am totally involved in each creative process.
What's
the projects that you did after parting ways with Famous?
I have recently founded my company Vaibhav Studios. We finished
the 14 minute film for the Children film project with Narayan Shi,
this was followed by the Videocon anti germ refridgerator. We also
did Apsara pencils which had 3 piglets and a wolf, it had a very
cute storyline. Then there was Kotak mutual funds which has a Cat,
dog and mouse -2D. They had posters we animated the posters in flash.
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"The Apsara sequence is very cute"
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The
wicked wolf has a change of heart
- Apsara commercial -
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There's
also Chase with Rythm and Hues. I suggested that since we were doing
something original we might as well do channel ids. I like the team
at Rhythm & Hues they are fine arts graduates. I was very happy
with the project. It is very rare that the 3D animators in industry
are from fine arts background.
What
are the latest projects that you have been working on?
Right now we are working on Hungama. We have animated the logo...
the H we are supposed to use it as Mascot.
Which animators have influenced you? Which books would you recommend
to aspiring readers?
The animators that have influenced me are Paul Drissen, Fredrick
Bach and Bill Plympton.The pwoplw at NID who influenced me the most
were Nina Sabnani and Anand Mistry.
One last question.
In media there is a very high burn out rate. The same is also said
of animation. Please comment?
It is not about media or animation. It is simple, When you love
your work, there is no chance of a burnout.
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